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Post by Frank Garrison on Oct 6, 2008 18:21:14 GMT -4
Ok um Wow how do i follow that up! Well congrats Kim and Frank for making it here! As of right now i really do not know who to vote so theese questions will make a difference Kim: You played great (cough) But for real you played good i just felt you had no common sense like you said you had 2 allies in the game well thoose allies (at leats lindsey) you denied to having the whole time so that kind of confused me and i thought we were allies i guess not 1.Tell me your biggest Lie of the season 2.Tell me who was the hardest person for you to vote out 3.How many immunites did you win? 4.How many pm's do you have in you inbox 5.Why does Frank deserve to win Ok Frank: Thanks for mentioning me and sayign you were glad i was gone that just helps you so much . Before reading your openign statement i knew you sucked and thought you were dumb for taking kim (i still think that but that is besides the point) But now i come to find otu that was your strategy to play dumb some strategy haha BUT it worked and it got you to the finals so you must of known what you are doing 1.Tell me your biggest Lie of the season 2.Tell me who was the hardest person for you to vote out 3.How many immunites did you win? 4.How many pm's do you have in your inbox 5.Why does Kim deserve to win Overall i look at you two and congradulate both of you you beat 14 other people in this game and you deserve it no matter what i am glad to be sittign here in 8th place making this decision becuase i know i want the best canidate to win and i think both of you deserve it so congrats! ~ Linda(P.S. - I decided to be nice i did not feel like being mean on a sunday) (I saw Kim answering in her color for all of the questions and although Silas did not say if we had to or not, I'll just follow it up by typing in red)
Hey Linda, thanks for your thoughts & questions!
1. I'll admit that I did not tell many lies. I found myself playing a very antisocial game most of the time, because there were MANY leaders this season (i.e. yourself, Silas, Lindsey, etc.) and I'm a firm believer that in a season of many leaders, a follower (hopefully me!) will come out on top and win, a good example being Vecepia Towery in Marquesas. My biggest lie was telling Kim that I was going to vote Kelly in F4. At that point I was in cahoots with Kelly and although Silas was able to trick her to split the vote with me, I was going to remain loyal and vote out Kim (my only choice, since Silas was immune.)
2. My hardest vote was voting out Silas for both strategical & emotional reasons. Silas & I have played in other games together and we have a bond, but we don't let that interfere with the game, and for the strategical part- Kim told me that she thinks I'm going to lose against either one of them, so I had to play by who I think was more of a threat to me, and although some people seem to have disagreed, I feel that Silas was more of a threat.
3. One; F3.
4. 26
5. Kim deserves to win because she was able to get here while having a compact strategy. Like I said, my strategy was to actually not have a strategy. Kim was able to get here while having a strategy & being a big time player, which some of you might see as more credible.
Good luck with your decision Linda!
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Post by Frank Garrison on Oct 6, 2008 18:32:54 GMT -4
Congrats Frank and Kim! You both have played great games to get to the final 2! I have a few questions for you 2 Frank, What are some reasons you deserve to win over Kim? Kim, What are some reasons you deserve to win over Frank? List every alliance and deal you made. How many of them, and which ones, did you break? List each tribal council vote you made, and why you voted for that person. Out of all the tribal council votes you made this game, which one was the biggest mistake? (self-votes do not count in this question) Hey Lindsey, nice to see you again
1. Some of the reasons I deserve to win over Kim are... -I was able to get here with having no real strategy (that being my strategy), thus a lot of impromptu moves. -I won the final IC, which shows that I'm not afraid to make a hard decision like voting out Silas. -I don't think that I was viewed as a contender to make the finals, thus being a sort of underdog that indeed did make the finals.
2. My alliances... -Linda+Silas -Kelly Those are the only alliances that I really had & stuck to since a lot of my votes were bandwagoning & impromptu. None were broken- The alliance with Silas kind of fell apart on its own when Linda went, and I did not write Kelly's name down.
3. I do not have the weeks listed, but I am simply just going to copy/paste everything I wrote with each vote. I'm sorry if some of the things I said hurt some people, but I'm not going to try to cover it up, since you'll see it when the boards are opened:
Frank writes down "Kim J" Just hopping on the bandwagon.
Frank writes down "Ethan" Bandwagon.
Frank writes down "Jessie" Bandwagon.
Frank writes down "Lindsey" Quite possibly the smartest player, yet the dumbest at the same time.
Frank writes down "Teresa" Bandwagon.
Frank writes down "Carl" Bandwagon.
Frank writes down "Lindsey " I knew you'd be trouble since the first day and its a blessing to get you out right now. I might as well thank you for the vote before your torch gets snuffed because I'm not dumb as shit like you think I am
Frank writes down "Kim P" Well I really don't have a choice do I? I don't know how Kim & Silas are going to vote, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was me.
Frank writes down "Silas" Well I'm not dumb as shit, I'm probably going to lose either way unless I fucking work it in the Final TC. I feel like I'll have a better chance of not getting a unanimous defeat against Kim, so goodbye Silas.
4. The one vote that I would regret the most is voting Lindsey out the first time, simply because I was warned that she was going to play her Idol, but I just did not change it in time.
Hope you have a good time with your decision Lindsey!
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Post by Frank Garrison on Oct 6, 2008 18:33:48 GMT -4
[glow=red,2,300]Kelly's Statement[/glow]Congratulations Kim and Frank!! Both of you played very good games to get to the final 2!! Both of you obviously played the best out of all of us!!!!!!!!!!! So most of the jury have already begun to ask ALOT of questions, so I am just going to read all of your answers to their questions. I already pretty much have my vote decided. So GOOD LUCK to the both of you on becoming the Sole Survivor of Africa!!!! ;D Thanks for your kind words Kelly!
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Post by Frank Garrison on Oct 6, 2008 18:35:38 GMT -4
same question for both did you cheat lie or betray an allience? did you vote me out and why? why should you win? Hey Carl, nice to see you again!
1. I did not lie or betray an alliance.
2. I voted you out because like you could see in my answer to one of Lindsey's question, I was just bandwagoning on the majority that TC.
3. I should win because like I said, I was able to get here without a real strategy (being my strategy), thus being on my toes a lot and having impromptu moves. Also, I won the final IC which shows that I was a good competitor in Challenges and not afraid to make a big power move, i.e. vote out Silas.
Good luck with your decision Carl!
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Post by Frank Garrison on Oct 6, 2008 18:40:55 GMT -4
First of all, congratulations on making it to the Final 2. You 2 did what the other 14 of us failed to do, and that's pretty amazing in my eyes. Below I have a few questions I would like to ask the both of you. As long as you answer these questions openly and honestly, you have a high chance of getting my vote. Frank, I believe that deep down, we are all a Surivivor family. Would you agree with this statement, and why? Kim, I believe that this game was a big adventure. Would you agree with this statement, and why? To the both of you, this is basically our family reunion after this big adventure (now you know why I asked you those questions earlier). This is the time to share the secrets we've been keeping inside ourselves throughout this whole game. I would like to hear the secrets that you 2 have been keeping. That is all. Good luck to the both of you, and may the best player win. Hey Clarence, haven't seen you in a while!
1. Yes I do agree with your statement. Each ORG has its own story, and Survivor Second Chances: Africa has a very unique story with its twists & turns like there being a tribe swap every round. There were also some very memorable characters like Linda, Lindsey, Silas, & Carl. This is going to be one ORG that I myself won't forget, and the other 15 players shouldn't either. We all made bonds with each other that will never be forgotten.
2. I can't really think of many secrets I've kept off the top of my head. I mean everything that I've thought has either A) been out & open during the game or B) already came out in some of the answers. However the one secret that I will say is directed towards Lindsey. I think you're a very nice person & would love to play in other ORGs with you, but I have to say that I felt that some parts of your game were rather moronic. On the first night we talked, you were telling me about how you came in fourth in Survivor: Playback and was a snake in the grass, and how you were in control in Survivor Replay: Panama - Exile Island. This just put a target on your back that I've had to keep an eye on since round one, and I think that put you at a lower status right off the bat. Not very smart in my opinion, but you DEFINITELY made it up throughout the game.
Good luck with your decision Clarence!
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Silas Gaither
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Post by Silas Gaither on Oct 6, 2008 22:08:56 GMT -4
Thanks to both of you! I know who I'm voting for. Best of luck!
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Post by Kimberley Powers on Oct 6, 2008 22:44:49 GMT -4
RESPONSE TO CLARENCE:
First off, thanks for the compliments Clarence. Very well spoken & written...
Kim, I believe that this game was a big adventure. Would you agree with this statement, and why?
"I couldn't agree with you more on your statement, Clarence. I too, strongly feel and believe that this game was nothing but a big adventure. I'm one of those types of people who believe everything in life (reality) happens for a reason. I feel as though we were all brought and drawn to this very series of an ORG and we all signed up to play for a reason. It led us all to meet such great people from all over and the challenges and twists and turns of this season were nothing but an adventure in itself. It truly shook things up from the norm of SURVIVOR. An adventure in life as a whole is all about the people you meet, the enriching moments you get out of that experience and growing as an individual being pushed to do things you never thought possible. I think a lot of that shined through all of us as the game progressed. This was adventure in and out of itself. Not only in the ORG world but in a reality setting as well. Thanks for asking, Clarence."
"As far as the whole secrets thing goes, I feel as though I never really had any secrets? I'm sure everyone found out early on that I was COLLEEN from BORNEO and ELISABETH from OUTBACK of this series. I took from those experiences what the final two had taught me and applied them to this game and it luckily ended up landing me a seat in the final two. As far as secrets go, that's about it but I don't think it was really that big or much of a secret to begin with. If there is anything more specific you'd like to know, please feel free to ask, thanks Clarence."
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Post by Clarence Black on Oct 7, 2008 6:40:03 GMT -4
Thank you both very much for your answers, they were extremely good. However, one of you has opened my eyes as wide as they can go, and that person will be recieving my vote. Once again, good luck to the both of you.
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Post by Jeff Probst on Oct 7, 2008 15:27:05 GMT -4
I'm going to email Teresa. The other Jurors can send in their votes if they don't feel like they need to wait for the closing statements.
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Post by Linda Spencer on Oct 7, 2008 20:01:33 GMT -4
Thanks guys you made my decision clear cut!
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Post by Teresa Cooper on Oct 8, 2008 0:51:10 GMT -4
Sorry about being late everyone! All the things I wanted to ask have already been covered, so just head to the closing statements...
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Post by Jeff Probst on Oct 8, 2008 14:46:48 GMT -4
Okay, post your closing statements now.
I'm only waiting for Silas' vote.
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Silas Gaither
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Dig through the ditches, And burn through the witches, I slam in the back of my, Dragula
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Post by Silas Gaither on Oct 8, 2008 15:32:44 GMT -4
Lol.... Yea, I'd like to hear the closing Statements. Then I'll vote.
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Post by Kimberley Powers on Oct 8, 2008 16:39:47 GMT -4
This is a little lengthy, but I wanted to let everyone know a play by play of my game from the very beginning. I had a concrete strategy and worked every angle possible to get where I am.
Kim Powers Closing Statement:
Since day one, this game has been nothing but quite an adventure (even though it’s an online game). It’s been one helluva time that is for sure. I think at the beginning it was a little crappy how a lot of people were inactive and not putting a lot of effort into this game. Coming into this game, I knew that I couldn’t stand out but I needed to be a little more social with members on my tribe from the get go. Those were two things of advice I got from playing Borneo and Outback.
Around the start of the game, I quickly formed an alliance with Silas and we called ourselves the “left eye, half smile” alliance - due to the pictures used for us in the banner and as our personal avatars. Once the tribes were announced, the Samburu tribe quickly came together and had one goal in mind (or so I thought) in ‘pagonging’ the Boran tribe. We knew we had an active, strong tribe so it was a good goal to strive to accomplish. I was all about the Samburu Pride.
After the first immunity challenge and tribal council – to all our surprises – the tribes were shuffled every round which made it quite interesting when it came to communicating, who you could trust and forming alliances. I knew my bonds with Silas and Lindsey were going to stay strong throughout so I had ‘nothing to worry about’. At one point in time, I was in the minority. It was four original Borans and three Samburu. (Kim J and Ethan had already left) I was worried that if we lost, one of the Samburu’s would go home. Luckily, I had been speaking with Kelly and tried to cover up the ‘pagonging goal on Boran’ and insisted that an inactive needed to go to make the game fun and that perfect candidate to vote for was Big Tom. Everyone agreed.
Tribes continued to shuffle. Silas had informed me that Linda and Frank were now apart of our alliance, which I wasn’t too thrilled about because I was hoping I could get Lindsey in their some how but no one was really a fan of her so it made it difficult since I had another loyalty to her. I never concreted or promised anything to Linda or Frank, which I made sure of. My main loyalty was to Silas and Lindsey.
Around the fourth tribal council I felt as though Ethan was the wisest target for the mere fact that he had previous votes and if it were a tie, we wouldn’t risk losing a Samburu. Plus a lot of us, including me were actually trying and giving this game their all. Unfortunately due to computer technical difficulties, I ended up self voting (my only time in this game) and Ethan still left. He was the easiest to campaign against at this time.
Still having the mindset of keeping the Samburu’s in the game, by the time the fourth Tribal Council came around – Linda was hard set on getting Teresa out. It was for her own personal gain, however – I didn’t want Teresa gone and I felt that Diane should leave the game (keeping Samburu strong and alive). Linda was convinced she had the numbers so I quickly turned to Carl, who seemed to be on the outskirts and told him the majority was Diane. I then turned to Teresa, told her that the vote was for her and I wanted to save her and if she wanted to stay, vote for Diane. I knew Lindsey would stay true to me so we suddenly had majority and Diane ended up leaving (4-3)
I ended up going to Tribal Council once again; fourth time in a row and Jessie was the only Boran so it just made sense to get her out. Plus at the time I thought Jessie was a huge threat and could dominate at the merge which wouldn’t be good for the loyalties I had. I thought she would leave but both Carl and Lindsey self voted. Brandon also self voted and since Jessie also voted Brandon, he ended up going home. First Samburu out.
The merge had finally arrived. Samburu seven strong with three original Borans. It only seemed wisest to gun for Jessie (she was the strongest out of the Borans).
The Final Nine had arrived, the jury stage. Keeping the Samburu tribe alive, Clarence was the next best bet. I recall wanting Kelly out because she was more active than Clarence but it was only fair and right to have Clarence leave so we could have an active final eight and a more alive jury.
The Final Eight, interesting things began to happen. Samburu wanted to turn more on one another and it was at that stage in the game where it just seemed to make the most sense. This was around the time Lindsey won the one time use idol. I was informed that Linda wanted to separate the two of us because we were close, which we were. I was not happy about this. Since I bid the most on the mystery box, I had won it and was given the choice to pick through all the items. I selected individual immunity to surprise people, just incase I had votes. Lindsey and I managed to demise a plan where we could both play our idols and turn the votes onto Linda (since she at that time was targeting us). I had wanted Linda out for awhile for being such a strategically manipulating player. I admired her for her game play but I knew if I wanted to get farther, she had to go. The plan was executed beautifully and Linda ended up leaving the game.
By that time I was ready to see Kelly leave the game but majority really was gun-ho for getting out Teresa. I felt that Kelly was more of a threat to my game but in the best interest of not sticking out, I had to stick with my loyalties wants at the time and went ahead and voted for Teresa.
Then Carl left, that wasn’t too hard of a vote. I knew Frank, Silas and Kelly really wanted Lindsey to go at the time but she had won immunity (luckily).
The next round was a tough one for me, Final five. The majority really wanted Lindsey gone. I had strong loyalty to Lindsey, just as I had for Silas. However nothing I could do or say would persuade them in not voting for Lindsey – their reasons were valid because she was a challenge threat, I agreed she was but I couldn’t vote for her, I respected her to much as a friend and as a player. I voted Kelly alongside her and stayed loyal with her from the beginning.
After Lindsey left the game, it was crucial for Silas, Frank or I to win the immunity. This would insure that Kelly would leave and that would leave the three of us Samburu's in the final three. Luckily, Silas had won. . . This left the game up in the air. I felt more vulnerable than ever because talk was going around about me and how I played this game and how well liked I am, so I should leave now before I 'win' the season. I had to do something about this. I had to make sure Silas voted for Kelly. I had a feeling that both Frank and Kelly were set on voting me out and I didn't want it to be a tie against Kelly and I. I told Silas that she should Kelly that she should vote for Frank - only for the mere fact that I've proven to suck in challenges and I'd be easier to beat in the final three - Frank could come out of no where after no 'proving' himself in the game. He told Kelly that and Kelly bought every last word of it that he said to her. I knew the game was moving in a better direction and more hope was coming into play for me. Kelly left and I still remained in the game.
That left the three of us: Silas, Frank and myself. I knew going into the final immunity challenge that I had to make sure I won because I couldn't fully trust Silas anymore and I couldn't trust Frank because I was pretty sure he and Silas made a deal. Later I uncovered the fact that Silas did approach Frank so I went ahead and made sure that Frank knew that I wasn't going to make a deal with him but rather tell him I think he should bring the person he feels should win out of Silas and I. In the end Frank brought me. I was still loyal to Silas, by not making a deal with Frank.
I outwit, outlast and outplayed this entire because those are the three core principles of the game survivor and in the end of everything, I'm proud of the way I played this game - win or loose. Best of luck Frank and thank you everyone for a wonderful game.
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Post by Jeff Probst on Oct 8, 2008 17:56:43 GMT -4
I have all the votes, but since Frank still hasn't posted his closing statement I'll make the official deadline of when your vote can be changed tonight at 9 PM Eastern. I'm sorry if you can't finish your closing statement by them, Frank, but I want to post the results ASAP.
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